Tibetan Translators Course, Chat Transcript
2005-02-04
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<PeteUlint> Hey there Chuck, how's it goin?
<PeteUlint> Hi Andrea
<AndreaLe> Hi -- can you hear any audio?
<PeteUlint> Yep
<ChuckVedo> Yup
<AndreaLe> Good good.
<ChuckVedo> it's going OK, Pete, and about to go better.
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<ChuckVedo> Hi, Elly.
<AndreaLe> Tonight's class will only be an hour.
<EllyvdPas> Oh, hi
<PeteUlint> andrea, is there a new text download?
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<AndreaLe> Working on the download...
<IrmaGomes> hola!
<PeteUlint> hi!
<ChuckVedo> Hola, Irma !
<PeteUlint> lost audio about a minute ago...
<ChuckVedo> yeah, same here
<AndreaLe> Ted's on it...
<IrmaGomes> the download... is it the updated text?
<ChuckVedo> thanks !
<AndreaLe> GMR's searcing on rgya dpe and rgya nag gi dpe
<AndreaLe> Respectively Tibetan for India and China
<AndreaLe> He's searching through the Tengyur
<AndreaLe> How's the audio now?
<PeteUlint> got it, thanks
<AndreaLe> Great
<ChuckVedo> same here, audio's back.
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<ChuckVedo> Hi, Patti !
<AndreaLe> You'll have to bear with me today -- I forgot my glasses and can't
see the GOFER screen that well. The Uma Chidun stuff should be fine, though,
<PeteUlint> No worries here
<ChuckVedo> You always do great, Andrea. Thank you so much.
<AndreaLe> Tonight we're being filmed by Voice of America. A little segment
on Diamond Mountain will be broadcast in Asia, including mainland China.
<AndreaLe> Hence tonight's emphasis on China.
<patti> howdy everyone, and you always do a wonderful job, andrea-hla
<AndreaLe> :-)
<ChuckVedo> Whoa.
<AndreaLe> He's typing the steps of this class:
<AndreaLe> GMR: FIND THE MANUSCRIPT
<AndreaLe> (the caps are his)
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<TedLemon> The latest Uma Chidun is up now.
<AndreaLe> He's following that with some big dots OOO
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<IrmaGomes> oki thanks
<ChuckVedo> Thanks, Ted.
<TedLemon> Yay, David's early!
<DavidFish> or maybe only a little late for a change
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK
<ChuckVedo> One day we'll all be totally in sync, David.
<DavidFish> i look forward to that day
<chukyi> Hey Gus, we have a team here from Voice of America, to a story for
China... so we are all part of a historical moment :-)...
<AndreaLe> Who's Gus? ;-)
<ChuckVedo> Our chat conversation will not be part of that...right ?
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB
<DavidFish> and translate it?
<TedLemon> That's why we're here, David.
<TedLemon> ;')
<chukyi> Gus is guys with a typo
<DavidFish> then hypertext it, right?
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO TRANSLATE IT INTO ENGLISH
<ChuckVedo> That's beautiful, Chukyi. I'm no longer suprised at what DM makes
happen.
<DavidFish> speaking of english, i'm having trouble with a couple of earlier
hw questions. anyone out there want to 'cheat' with me?
<TedLemon> Sound any better?
<AndreaLe> The audio is about to get better...
<DavidFish> audio's awesome.
<TedLemon> Mercedes moved the microphone for us - we forgot to set it up in
all the excitement.
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<ChuckVedo> yeah, it's almost scary, how clear Geshe Michael is now. I'm
listening thru headphones...
<TedLemon> w00t!
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO LIVING PERSON TO EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU FROM LINEAGE OOOO TRANSLATE IT INTO ENGLISH OOO
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO LIVING PERSON TO EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU FROM LINEAGE OOOO TRANSLATE IT INTO ENGLISH OOOO POPULAR BOOKS
<PeteUlint> Sure David (re: HW)-- not sure how helpful I'll be, and I haven't
kept up with all the homeworks, but I'll tic-tak with you on it.
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<ChuckVedo> Anybody else just lose the audio ?
<PeteUlint> yup.
<DavidFish> me too. thanks pete, that's comforting
<IrmaGomes> meeeeee
<AndreaLe> Ted looks like he's on the job...
<patti> wow, i got dumped all the way out of everything...just got chat
back..but no audio
<PeteUlint> its back
<DavidFish> join the crowd. ted's working on the audio
<patti> hurray!!
<ChuckVedo> it's back here, too
<DavidFish> tec, could you fix my audio too, please?
<patti> spoke too soon about the audio
<PeteUlint> seems like the network's a bit touchy today...
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO LIVING PERSON TO EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU FROM LINEAGE OOOO TRANSLATE IT INTO ENGLISH OOOO POPULAR BOOKS
OOOO TOUR AROUND & TEACH
<DavidFish> hi patti, we're in the same audio boat.
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO LIVING PERSON TO EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU FROM LINEAGE OOOO TRANSLATE IT INTO ENGLISH OOOO POPULAR BOOKS
OOOO TOUR AROUND & TEACH OOOO TRANSLATE INTO OTHER MODERN LANGUAGES
<ChuckVedo> I lost audio again, too.
<AndreaLe> Ted is busy and looks a little sad :-(
<AndreaLe> Obstacles...
<ChuckVedo> This is not the night for this to happen. Ted should be able to
focus on the class, not fix problems !
<TedLemon> I have a flaky ethernet cable.
<patti> we must be getting really good for these big bumps on the road.
<ChuckVedo> Ah, well said, Patti ! Thank you !
<AndreaLe> Geshe-la is unwrapping a pecha with the yogas of Naropa. found in
St. Petersburg.
<chukyi> Wish you guys could see this
<ChuckVedo> Thru your eyes !
<patti> i hear you..literally
<DavidFish> thanks, ted, got sound back.
<PeteUlint> I have this image of ted running around. I'd hate to think its
really distracting and disruptive for everybody in the room!
<AndreaLe> There are drawings of little yoga poses, some of which you saw in
The Tibetan Book of Yoga.
<TedLemon> Turns out this time I was able to fix it sitting down.
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<AndreaLe> Yay Ted!
<PeteUlint> Yah, thanks!
<ChuckVedo> GO TED !
<patti> yippie!!
<PeteUlint> I don't think we can say thanks too many times. :-)
<DavidFish> thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks,........
<ChuckVedo> Thuk je che !
<chukyi> Hey, you folks are what makes this an "on line" translators course.
It is so exciting for us here to feel connected with you there :->
<AndreaLe> FIND THE MANUSCRIPT OOOO CATALOG THE BOOK OOOO SCAN THE BOOK
OOOO INPUT THE BOOK OOOO PUT IT ON THE WEB OOOO LIVING PERSON TO EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU FROM LINEAGE OOOO TRAIN TRANSLATORS & TEACHERS OOOO TRANSLATE
IT INTO ENGLISH OOOO POPULAR BOOKS OOOO TOUR AROUND & TEACH OOOO
TRANSLATE INTO OTHER MODERN LANGUAGES OOOO BRING IT INTO EVERYDAY LIFE TO
HELP PEOPLE
<ChuckVedo> I'm so glad it goes both ways. This is such a gift for me.
<patti> for all beings
<anthonyde> hi, what's geshe la talking about?
<AndreaLe> The Cold War between the US and the USSR.
<AndreaLe> I think he's leading up to his goal of averting another cold war
with China.
<AndreaLe> We're being filmed tonight by Voice of America, for broadcast in
east Asia.
<chukyi> You got it Andrea
<DavidFish> sounds like the 'the second american empire and the future of
chinese-american relations'
<ChuckVedo> yeah, you're right David.
<AndreaLe> Oh yeah, definitely.
<ChuckVedo> kindness, generosity...kindness, generosity...kindness,
generosity...
<patti> i have to think that there is a big difference between "people" and
"governments"...and there really shouldn't be.
<AndreaLe> And why do you see the governments you see?
<AndreaLe> It's quite embarrassing to ponder that my actions created the
various dreadful governments all over the world.
<patti> oh yes..and i am working hard on it everyday.
<AndreaLe> Bring on the translation!
<AndreaLe> Everyone find thhe latest Uma Chidun online?
<PeteUlint> I pulled what was on the link (but I think it still says 1/30)
<TedLemon> Sorry about that - I uploaded the new version but didn't update
the index.html file.
<AndreaLe> We're skipping to the bit that starts "DANG PO LA, SNYING..."
<AndreaLe> FRom there through PHYAG 'TSAL BA GNYIS
<AndreaLe> GMR: The first of these has two parts of its own: honoring great
compassion without dividing it, and honoring great compassion with dividing it.
<AndreaLe> GMR: The first of these has two parts of its own: honoring great
compassion without dividing it, and then honoring great compassion with dividing
it.
<AndreaLe> Translating from DANG PO DE through SKYES, ,ZHES PA NAS,
<AndreaLe> Looking through GOFER, at Entering the Middle Way
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<anthonyde> NYAN THOS SANGS RGYAS 'BRING RNAMS
<anthonyde> THUB DBANG SKYES, ,SANGS RGYAS BYANG
<anthonyde> CHUB SEMS DPA' LAS 'KHRUNGS SHING...
<AndreaLe> 'NYAN THOS SANGS RGYAS 'BRING RNAMS THUB DBANG SKYES, ,SANGS RGYAS
BYANG...
<AndreaLe> 'NYAN THOS SANGS RGYAS 'BRING RNAMS THUB DBANG SKYES, ,SANGS RGYAS
BYANG CHUB SEMS DPA' LES 'KHRENGS SHING, ,SNYING...
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<AndreaLe> 'NYAN THOS SANGS RGYAS 'BRING RNAMS THUB DBANG SKYES, ,SANGS RGYAS
BYANG CHUB SEMS DPA' LES 'KHRENGS SHING, ,SNYING RJE'I SEMS DANG GNYIS SU MED
BLO DANG, ,BYANG CHUB SEMS NI RGYAL SRAS RNAMS KYI RGYU,
<AndreaLe> 'NYAN THOS SANGS RGYAS 'BRING RNAMS THUB DBANG SKYES, ,SANGS RGYAS
BYANG CHUB SEMS DPA' LAS 'KHRUNGS SHING, ,SNYING RJE'I SEMS DANG GNYIS SU MED
BLO DANG, ,BYANG CHUB SEMS NI RGYAL SRAS RNAMS KYI RGYU,
<AndreaLe> (I think I cleared all my typoes)
<AndreaLe> (This is the quote from the beginning of "Entering the Middle
Way")
<AndreaLe> (which is being quoted in Uma Chidun)
<AndreaLe> 'KHRUNGS = honorific form of "to be born"
<anthonyde> middling realizers - i've seen translated for sang rgyas 'bring
<AndreaLe> GNYIS SU MED = non dual
<IrmaGomes> I lost audio :(
<ChuckVedo> lost audio again...but I know class is almost over...
<AndreaLe> GMR: Ted's looking into it.
<AndreaLe> Geshe-la is talking about bowing down to love -- the seed that
everything grows from :-)
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<AndreaLe> Geshe-la is getting choked up talking about bowing down to love
:-)
<AndreaLe> dedication...
<AndreaLe> In case you don't know, tonight's class is only an hour.
<anthonyde> so is that the end of class for today?
<AndreaLe> Tsechu...
<IrmaGomes> andrea lha, I downloaded the "updated"version but it looks like
the one before...
<AndreaLe> Hmm, sorry. We'll get it straigtened out for next class.
<PeteUlint> Thanks so much once more for being our lifeline andrea... is
Voice of America recording all weekend?
<AndreaLe> Yes, I think so.
<AndreaLe> It's definitely going to be China Theme Weekend :-)
<IrmaGomes> :-) I"ll go eat some chinese food on your honor
<AndreaLe> Which isn't out of character -- Geshe-la has been talking about
China for a while now.
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<AndreaLe> Rejoice that you're creating wealth for Chinese people that way.
<DavidFish> thanks everyone.
<IrmaGomes> thanks to all! oh when's the last class?
<patti> thanks and warm hugs to everyone.have a wonderful weekend!!
<anthonyde> thanks guys - your service is amazing - much appreciated!
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<ChuckVedo> blessings all.
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<PeteUlint> Thanks all, have a happy weekend everyone!
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